"...Everybody has quite a bit to work on. Like when I'm playing, there are certain things I try to get done...The best thing a critic can do, is to thoroughly understand what he is writing about and then jump in. That's al he can do. I have seen favorable criticism which revealed a lack of profound analysis, causing it to be little more than superficial. Understanding is what is needed. That is all you can do.

Get all the understanding for what you are speaking of that you can get. That way you have done your best. It's the same with a musician who is trying to understand music as well as he can. Undoubtedly, none of us are going to be 100% - in either criticism or music. No percent near that, but we've got to try. Understanding is the whole thing. in talking to a critic, try to understand him, and he can try to understand the part of the game that you are in. With this understanding, there's no telling what could be accomplished. Everybody would benefit."

-John Coltrane, Down Beat Magazine, 1962

Some day we might start to begin to understand how powerful hip-hop is. This won't happen until we all get an understanding of what it is, where it came from, where it is today, and where it's going to be. Once we all start to get together, know our scene, know our critics, know our partners, know each other, then we can really move towards the cause for the Tacoma scene. Let's make it happen boys and girl.

At this all scene meetings, make them more powerful than just trading records, or chopping it up over a beer. Know why you are there, know what you can bring to the table, and know that YOU don't have it all together!

"Two are more powerful than one..." -Ecclesiates 4:9

There is strength in numbers, but only if those numbers know why they are together.

Yeah I wonder as it turns fall if more people will start coming to shows since the weather is going to be crappy

as long as its a reasonable price the only factor is whose on the bill

cute names.

were you at dawsons creek on those days off?

Dawson - When you reach the level of John Coltrane start talkin....Dame Dash ain't on that level, and certainly Cam'ron aint....go back to the creek and bury yourself under some rocks.

dawson:

especially you plu folks

did you like apply and not get in or something homie? this is the second time in like 2 weeks you've got at 10th & Commerce (the first being your plu references on the Tacoma Proof Thread), cause anybody on here as much as you knows we are the only local group that goes to school or plans shows there, unless your talking about Grynch (plu class of 08), but considering his place in Northwest Hip-Hip im sure your not. the show that i put on with my band, Can-U, Macklemore, and One.Be.Lo was one of the illest tacoma events of last spring, and the shit was free, and im pretty sure your ass was there. next time i throw some shit like that, you don't need to fucking come.

word homie, i dont think the cave is any incredible venue. the sound is pretty crappy and i cant stand the blank white walls, but i its better than nothing and i have easy access to it soi feel obligated to try and make shit happen once a month, especially when i can talk plu into picking up the bill like they did for the one.be.lo show. im not the only person who gets this, can-u and reign came out and did two shows before i could get plu to cut them a check... so i dont wanna come off as i think the cave is incredible, but i think its fucked up for people to try to clown college shows just cause there college shows.

reread my post 3 times and don't see how anybody but jason could be insulted by it. i wasn't taking shots and lol i thought like 80% of you went to school at plu. i would never apply to a private college unless i thought they would pay for all of it, and certainly wouldn't pay that kind of money for the right to go to school in south tacoma. if it's a good fit for you, cool, i never meant to insult it and did not. that one be lo show was incredible, even though the first performer was forgettable.

i also never would've laughed so hard at jason's post and clowned him if i knew he was john coltrane.

Yo Dawson, I think Joey is at your window.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyTaH6ut-pg

It's kind of funny when a young kid who goes to school over in Montana is a know it all about the 253 scene. like i said in the quote, try to get an understanding young buck, then may be you can grow up and start building. that goes for all you young punks (age and maturity wise).